Tacoma Urbanist

Mar. 4, 2008 at 12:33am

Goddess of Commerce Statute to Grace Tollefson Plaza


    

Goddess of Commerce rose in 1880s
Melted Down in the 1940s
for Copper

Have you wondered why downtown Tacoma just doesn't have the spark it should? True, many of our historical buildings have been razed for parking lots our City Clock on Old City Hall (which is vacant BTW) is stuck at 3:17.   One of the best streetcar systems in the country was ripped out.  All true.

Yet, there is another reason.  Tacoma's 10'  Goddess of Commerce was removed from downtown from 12th and Pacific in the 1940s.  Worse, she was melted down for scrap.  The building she was located on was razed.

Now there is a opportunity to resurrect her and bring her to Tollefson Plaza a few blocks away.

Tonight I heard a presentation from "Babe" Lehrer at the North End Neighborhood Council who is working to have the 7' 4" Goddess recreated on the grass area right in front of the Carlton Building overlooking Tollefson Plaza.




Here was a miniture version that was unveiled tonight.  The one that hopefully will be in the plaza will be 7' 4" tall.

Here's how the layout will look by the Carlton Building:




Here's a view from the Carlton Building to the Plaza.





The sculptor is Marilyn Mahoney.  The sculpture has fish running down the back and into a pool of sorts.  Sounds weird but looks pretty cool.

Here's the deal.  They need $124,000 to build it. 

The 501 (c)(3) tax deductible donations can be sent to

Tacoma Historical Society
PO Box 1865
Tacoma, WA 98401


Apparently, one of the bronze fish can be "purchased" for $5000.

Commentary


Tacoma was a grand city at the turn of the century.  This is just one of a hundred examples of how subsequent generations of Tacomans treated the city like a scrapyard and disposal site of one sort or another.  Even the best of Tacoma's historians probably know but  fraction of what was lost in the city.  The present generation is left to pick up the pieces and restore and replace what we can.

(Thanks to TDM for the newsclip)

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Comments

by intacoma on 3/4/2008 @ 4:09am
I think she needs to be more like superhero instead of stayhome mom

by KevinFreitas on 3/4/2008 @ 6:24am
Wasn't there supposed to be a totem put on display there? I wonder if that's still happening or if this is the replacement? A nice addition to the area nonetheless.

by jenyum on 3/4/2008 @ 7:29am
Are you saying stay at home moms can't be superheroes?

Do I have to climb into my giant robot and stomp you?

by jcbetty on 3/4/2008 @ 8:28am
heh. Down, Jen-- I think he's talking about a different species of mother, the "stay home mom" (or, shm) rather than the stay AT home mom (which we know, and live)(And we're pretty hot and superhero-like, imho)

--Statue sounds cool!

by NineInchNachos on 3/4/2008 @ 8:52am
the statue ain't got no hips! has the sculptor ever seen a female body? It looks like a man.


by morgan on 3/4/2008 @ 8:55am
I would like to see the building replicated too.

by jcbetty on 3/4/2008 @ 10:06am
building replica bldg. would be cool. And, note to RR-- I think it's an *artistic* *representation*, kinda' like Jesus on Madonna's lap in Pieta, or Barbie's bosom, "objects are not to scale" -but god bless you for that validation of a woman's right to be a woman.

by Voronoff-the-Ghost-Critic on 3/4/2008 @ 10:40am
Tacoma needs more STATUES
I know a living statue....

by NineInchNachos on 3/4/2008 @ 11:07am
everything about this statue is wrong. look how (s)he's holding the tanker... like a big fat penis envy metaphor. the lumpy dress sleeves look like turds. the building scape in her other hand look like stolen pharmaceuticals.

It's like we're trying to punish/humiliate the legacy of that Toffefson guy.

why don't we just buy a statue of Stalin or Sadam Hussein... atleast we'd be paying for quality design.

by Erik on 3/4/2008 @ 11:11am
The statute design

I do like the original design better with the spear. However, I suppose it is seen as too aggressive these days.

On the other hand, the new "Goddess of Commerce" is scaled about 10 times the size of the freighter she is carrying which would make her effectively 4000 feet tall which is nearly a mile. Thus, though benign looking, her scaled size is pretty impressive.

Location

The location is pretty good IMO. The statute would be elevated above the plaza and gaze over it rather than being stuck in the middle of the plaza.

why don't we just buy a statue of Stalin or Sadam Hussein... atleast we'd be paying for quality design.

I am not sure that they would be appropriate for "commerce." Most of those statutes were melted down although I think Freemont may have one.

Also, the prior "Goddess of Commerce" ultimately was defeated and melted down, so perhaps another more thoughtful "Goddess" approach is needed.

by NineInchNachos on 3/4/2008 @ 11:15am
I like Marilyn Mahoney's mermaid


by intacoma on 3/4/2008 @ 11:46am
Thats right jcbetty :)

I just feel if your going to tag it with goddess that it should be strong, beautiful, and doing something interesting. She looks like shes holding a bedpan and crying. I guess thats the feeling of downtown right now... I vote for NineIncheNachos to be commissioned

by Erik on 3/4/2008 @ 11:56am
I vote for NineIncheNachos to be commissioned

RR has already given us his self portrait version of "Goddess of Commerce" on Tollefson Plaza.

I just feel if your going to tag it with goddess that it should be strong, beautiful, and doing something interesting.

She could use a better action posture. Although I don't know what that would be. Tacoma has some pretty good sculptures that show some sort of movement.

by NineInchNachos on 3/4/2008 @ 12:22pm
maybe something more entrepreneurial, audacious


something ayn rand would want in her front yard.

by Erik on 3/4/2008 @ 12:24pm
Love it.

Here's lady justice in England on top of the Old Bailey:



More aggressive that the typical ones in the US. Looks like she is ready for a scrap.

Here's a Chamber piece:



The Goddess having both arms down carrying something in both hands makes it hard for the statute to show movement or much flair.

by NineInchNachos on 3/4/2008 @ 12:27pm

by NineInchNachos on 3/4/2008 @ 12:29pm

by NineInchNachos on 3/4/2008 @ 12:34pm





by NineInchNachos on 3/4/2008 @ 12:42pm

by NineInchNachos on 3/4/2008 @ 12:44pm
minoan


or how bad ass would this be:
shes part beast!

by Erik on 3/4/2008 @ 12:50pm
Of course, there's the standard reference.



The SOL is not moving but is taking the action of shining light.

by NineInchNachos on 3/4/2008 @ 1:00pm
ah french women.

by Erik on 3/4/2008 @ 1:12pm
Here's a close up comparison. Modified a bit:



She does look a bit weighted down from the burden of having to carry the objects. Not much mojo. One has to ask what is the figure doing? So much potential with the arms. Still nice IMO but could be better.

I suspect that the statute has not been made yet perhaps there is time for a modification. I understand there has only been one fish sold so far.

by Erik on 3/4/2008 @ 1:27pm
Here's the original Goddess of Commerce scaled somewhat:


by intacoma on 3/4/2008 @ 1:36pm



I really don't want it to be another one of these

by NineInchNachos on 3/4/2008 @ 2:02pm
what I like about the original 1800 statue..

- she's wearing a helmet
- she's freakin' brawny
- she's holding the world in the palm of her hand, leaving the idea of global commerce vague and open to individual interpretation.


what I hate about the new design...

- no helmet
- the vapid "What Me Worry?" expression
- specific reference of freight vessel, real-estate, no global connection.
- gangly ape arms
- position of ship in relation to groin region.

by jenyum on 3/4/2008 @ 2:39pm
OK, I definitely agree. She looks like she's about to offer someone an iced tea.

Not very goddess-like.

by Thorax on 3/4/2008 @ 6:21pm
@ Voronoff: More statues? Absolutely. We need more art in this town!

Personally, I'd love to see a 20' version of the original. My grandpa had a pretty slick picture of the original he took back in '38. It got lost after he died, how I would love to see that picture again.

by jcbetty on 3/4/2008 @ 7:35pm
WTF? is she nestling to her breast? A deformed square-ish baby, suckling with its foot? I dunno. in this light, she has a sort of Scandinavian Pocahontas meets Angelina Jolie look to her that's part malnourished, idealized sad person, part.... I dunno. Not compelling to look at, except possibly sadly? (There's a sadness to her posture, I think, that says less "Goddess" and more, "I'm forking tired.")

by NineInchNachos on 3/4/2008 @ 7:49pm
I wonder if the Business Examiner will mention this thread in their Wednesday "Blog Watch" one can only hope

by fredo on 3/4/2008 @ 8:36pm
The figure looks like Miss Crunchabal from "Matilda". It least she isn't made of glass. With a little luck it may be a couple of years before the vandals destroy her.
A more interesting subject for the sculpture would be our mayor complete with spinning head.

by AP on 3/4/2008 @ 11:43pm

by AP on 3/4/2008 @ 11:45pm


I like clean lines.

by Warren on 3/6/2008 @ 10:58am
NIN is right on with every point. JCBetty too!

I like the alternative examples presented here. Anything Ayn Rand would like gets my Vote.

But we do need to be more thoughtful about this. Whose idea was it to just plop down a statue here or anywhere? Did the City of Tacoma contact her about resurecting the goddess or did the merchants? Oh Gee I have had a sculpture idea for a while now that I want to push on everyone too, perhaps I can get some money for it and stick in the heart of downtown. We need more art in Tacoma, sure - why not? But not more art at the expense and detriment of taste?

The maquette I saw this morning at the DMG is pretty hideous. Besides this grass area in front of our shops (Tacoma Art Supply & TwoKoi) is not a good place for a sculpture dumping ground. InTacoma is right also, the previous statues by this artist are creepy. The ship down there is weirdo. I think the so called Native American features on this statue are punishment to Native Americans as well as that Toffefson guy.

No Sculpture Dumping Grounds!

Warren
Tacoma Art Supply

by Erik on 3/6/2008 @ 11:45am
Oh Gee I have had a sculpture idea for a while now that I want to push on everyone too, perhaps I can get some money for it and stick in the heart of downtown.

Good bring it on. The Tacoma Art Museum has a blank plaza they still have not had an art piece for. Frost Park could have something.

At WWU, they have erected some very strange large art pieces in the 1970s. One is orange and made out of I beams. They are generally disliked but they are iconic and memorable.

Goddess of Commerce is certainly better.

As for reviewing art, there is the Tacoma Arts Commission who analyzes art and makes recommendations.

About the Commission

The Tacoma Arts Commission is a 15 member volunteer commission made up of Tacoma residents who are arts advocates and artists. Commission members are appointed by the Tacoma City Council following an application process. The Commission's functions are outlined in Chapter 1.28 of the Tacoma Municipal Code. Created in 1965, the Tacoma Arts Commission is one of the oldest arts commissions in Washington State.


www.tacomaculture.org/arts/tac.asp

by NineInchNachos on 3/6/2008 @ 12:00pm
maybe if she was wearing a tophat or fez I would feel differently.

by Erik on 3/6/2008 @ 12:27pm
maybe if she was wearing a tophat or fez I would feel differently.

There is always the Guerrilla art approach.

by izenmania on 3/6/2008 @ 1:07pm
She could have a different hat every week!

Actually, I have an even more brilliant idea. We put her on a couple foot cube pedestal, which contains a hollow chamber. Inside the base is an assortment of outfits, hats, and accessories... whatever old costume stuff the local theatres don't need anymore. Then any passer-by is welcome to mix and match and dress her up however they please.

Any takers? Anybody?

by tacomachickadee on 3/6/2008 @ 3:04pm
See here for Portland's Portlandia statue ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portlandia

by NineInchNachos on 3/6/2008 @ 3:13pm
hey now thats a goddess. I dig the trident.

by tacomachickadee on 3/6/2008 @ 8:28pm
I thought you might like it ...

by tacomachickadee on 3/6/2008 @ 8:30pm
I remember back when I lived in the PDX "metro area" and they installed the lovely Portlandia. I love that it's not right smack in the main traffic areas and that you kind of have to hunt for it. It's like they're saying "it's fabulous, but ya gotta find it" ... not trying to flaunt it. And it is fabulous.

by fredo on 3/6/2008 @ 10:01pm
What is the scrap value of this sculpture compared to the one that was melted down in the 1940s?

by NineInchNachos on 3/10/2008 @ 4:00pm
my god, they're going to shoe horn this through!

by intacoma on 3/10/2008 @ 4:23pm
I just called that number and left a message I will be attending the historic meeting tonight in hope of giving them my opinion and one else want to join me?

by KevinFreitas on 3/10/2008 @ 4:29pm
Email info@tacomahistory.org or call 253-472-3738 to voice any concerns. Here's an email I just sent over:

Please consider this email as opposition to the currently proposed design of the Commerce satue slated to be a permanent fixture at Tollefson Plaza. Discussion over at FeedTacoma.com (see i.feedtacoma.com/Erik/goddess-commerce-s...) brought this design to my attention and I'd like to submit the comments at that link to the public record on the matter. I feel that the strength of the statue's image is weak at best and am concerned with a conflict of interest if it's true that the artist is also a part of the Tacoma Arts Commission.

Thank you for your time and consideration and I look forward to more public discussion into designing an alternative that Tacoman's can truly be proud of.

by intacoma on 3/10/2008 @ 4:44pm
The meeting tonight is at 7pm and the main library I think

by Erik on 3/10/2008 @ 4:48pm
There looks to be two issues that need to be separated.

First, should there be a Goddess of Commerce in Tollefson Plaza?

Second, what should the statute look like?

I like the first proposal but agree there could be some improvements in the second. To put the issue as succinctly as possible: if Tacoma is going to be able to stand up the the likes of the Seattle Chamber of Commerce, the Goddess needs more mojo!

by KevinFreitas on 3/10/2008 @ 4:49pm
Correction: the artist in question isn't on the Tacoma Arts Commission. Thanks Izenmania!

by NineInchNachos on 3/10/2008 @ 4:50pm
from index article: "In another arm, she is holding a container ship"

RR Trivia: my tremendous pencil from 'super tacomic' is a parody of the goddess' container ship pose.

by intacoma on 3/10/2008 @ 5:40pm
ok I'm not going to the historic meeting since I don't think this is the appropriate time after talking with a few people. I'll talk with the person in charge of fundraising for this sculpture and get back to you.

thanks

by Erik on 3/10/2008 @ 5:58pm
I'll talk with the person in charge of fund raising for this sculpture and get back to you.

Nice work. Here's the chance to have some input in the project early.

Since the fund raising has just started and the statute has not been built yet, perhaps this is an opportunity to expand the number of Goddess of Commerce supporters.

With a better design, this could expand the number of "stakeholders" and make it more of a win/win/win. We could even help with a fund raiser in Tollefson Plaza.

In addition to the design, how about a bigger statute? 7'4" seems too small for Tollefson Plaza. That's not enough to hold off Hammering Man.


by NineInchNachos on 3/10/2008 @ 6:02pm
I like the statue idea. Taller statues are good as well but if the need for thriftiness is paramount we can always put that sucker on a real tall pedestal.

by intacoma on 3/10/2008 @ 6:07pm
Griselda "Babe" Lehrer is fundraising for this event if you want someone to talk to about the sculpture she's the one

by Erik on 3/10/2008 @ 6:18pm
Griselda "Babe" Lehrer is fundraising for this event if you want someone to talk to about the sculpture she's the one

Yes. She gave a good presentation before the NENC. Great lady. She is probably one of the reasons Tacoma was not abandoned in its entirety in the 1970s and 1980s.

Shes doing a great job with the fund raising for the Goddess. The idea of a "Goddess of Commerce" in Tollefson Plaza is a great one.

Here's the time to resolve the final statute design. Here's another alternative from the historic angle: simply try to rebuilt the original Goddess from pictures and drawings. It would probably be far better than any "modern" statute is going to be.

Perhaps we can have a Feed Tacoma fundraising event and raise money by auctioning off Tacomics and bandwidth and make a website for "The Goddess."

by tacomachickadee on 3/10/2008 @ 6:46pm
Babe is fantabulastic.

by ensie on 3/10/2008 @ 9:24pm
Babe is AWESOME. I've met with her on more than one occasion.

by intacoma on 3/10/2008 @ 11:18pm
Great so tell her how you feel about it

by Warren on 5/13/2008 @ 10:10pm
Is there still a chance to pour some more water on this fire?

I was told by one of our native carvers that there are Puyallup Tribal council members already upset about the representation of Native Americans this sculpture presuposes. I am sure everyone involved with this has the best intentions, but there is a road by the same name and you know where it goes. There are just too many things about this that are WRONG and I didn't make them up. But I am willing to speak up.

by Adam the Alien on 5/14/2008 @ 12:05am
Oh my God!

Statue: good idea.

This statue: fugly. For all the reasons already stated.

Planned placement of fugly statue: complete shit. See "How to Make the Plaza Worse" chapter in "Things Not To Do, God Damn It". Seriously, that seems like a rather random and ill-planned placement.

Statue placement is much like a tattoo. If you plan a tattoo to work with the flow of the body, it looks great. If you just kind a go "Uhhhh...put it...um...there! Yeah, there's good" like most people do? It looks terrible, no matter how beautiful the art itself is. Similarly, statues need to work with the space that they're in. Mediocre statues like this one need to even moreso.

The statue is too small, in comparison to its very open surroundings, to work. It's aimed to be in a fairly random location in the "park" (no matter how much "planning" anyone tries to claim went into the placement of it). And the shape of the statue itself doesn't work with its surroundings.

Furthermore, I don't know what kind of trees those are...are they going to grow any larger? If so, the statue's proximity to them will be its undoing, eventually.

Summary: ugly statue, ugly placement. Doesn't work. It WILL make the much-maligned bit of so-called park a lot harder to look at.

by Warren on 5/14/2008 @ 3:24pm
I was just told they are casting it right now!

by NineInchNachos on 5/14/2008 @ 3:31pm
well when it's finished we can always start a subversive campaign by putting a paper bag over her head (with eye holes cut out of course).

by izenmania on 5/14/2008 @ 3:39pm
A statue of AP?

by Warren on 5/14/2008 @ 3:55pm
Slight correction about the artist being on the Arts Commission. She was on the commission less than a year ago.

www.tacomaculture.org/arts/resource/TA_M...

by Dave L. on 5/14/2008 @ 4:30pm
Great thread. Good call, jennyum... and Morgan, re: the building.
search.tpl.lib.wa.us/images/dt3.asp?SX=2...

by Dave L. on 5/14/2008 @ 4:59pm
Oops, sorry.
search.tpl.lib.wa.us/images2/88/t4/21175...
search.tacomapubliclibrary.org/buildings...

Anyway, speaking of great Tacoma statues, the 1893 Italian statue of "Colombo" (carved for the Columbian Exposition in Chicago) that stands inside the Antique Standwich has a classic character, plus a nice pose.

by Erik on 12/11/2008 @ 9:30pm
Update:

New Statue scheduled now to be located in Tollefson Plaza:



When finished, the sculpture will be placed in a grassy area near South 17th Street and Pacific Avenue, just west of the Link light rail line and within Tollefson Plaza's boundary, according to Tacoma Arts Administrator Amy McBride. The sculpture, which will be carved from Old Growth Cedar from the Quinault Rain Forest, will stand 18 feet tall and atop a four foot pedestal. ...

"I'm crossing my fingers this project will be realized this spring," says McBride. "It's something that's been in the works for awhile."


...

Still, McBride says the log has already arrived in Tacoma, and preliminary work is being done in a storage site on the Puyallup Indian reservation. In addition to the Tacoma Art Museum's contribution, the City is paying for structural engineering and site preparation.


www.tacomadailyindex.com/portals-code/li...

by NineInchNachos on 12/11/2008 @ 10:18pm
good lord. It just keeps getting STRANGER!

by NineInchNachos on 12/11/2008 @ 10:20pm
SURELY they're not still calling it the goddess of commerce statue?

by Mofo from the Hood on 12/11/2008 @ 10:47pm
Chief Casino!!

by Erik on 6/5/2009 @ 2:11am
NEWSFLASH: The Goddess of Commerce lives!



She has nearly finished a 7-foot-tall plasticine clay model of a modern Goddess of Commerce as she envisions her. It stands in the gallery at Bronze Works, a downtown Tacoma foundry. A day will come when the new bronze Goddess will stand atop a 2-foot-tall pedestal in Theater on the Square Park.

Pierce Transit has agreed to give the Goddess a spot in the park, but the City of Tacoma owns the air rights. So Mahoney must win permitting approval from the city and present a perpetual liability insurance and maintenance plan. Or the city could formally accept the piece into its public art collection.


www.thenewstribune.com/business/story/76...


by Jake on 6/7/2009 @ 11:17am
I wonder what made them decide to move the location of the statue?

by NineInchNachos on 6/7/2009 @ 12:52pm
still looks like she's holding a plater full of meds and a sex toy (though they did reposition the ship to look less like a strapon)

by Warren on 6/24/2009 @ 11:28am
Her head is too big for her body. I want to say something more but I am too scared. I just wasted two hours typing up my opinions and I don't think it will help anyone now. The goddess is going to kill us. Please don't kill us. I am not against a goddess statue really I am not. If you want more of what I wrote and didn't post here, e-mail me.

I have to back to earning a living now since we don't have a goddess yet.

Warren
Tacoma Art Supply

by Erik on 11/13/2009 @ 1:37am
Today, Peter Callaghan weighs in on the Goddess of Commerce and quotes from many of the above commentators and from a NIN thread on Feed Tacoma:

But the sculpture meant to break the curse over Tacomas economy has sparked quite a bit of debate among those who care about such things. The common thread seems to be that the symbolism is too vague, the figure too timid.

I just feel if youre going to tag it with goddess it should be strong, beautiful, and doing something interesting, wrote Intacoma on the blog Tacoma Urbanist. She looks like shes holding a bedpan and crying. I guess thats the feeling of downtown right now.

Said Erik: If Tacoma is going to be able to stand up to the likes of the Seattle Chamber of Commerce, the Goddess needs more mojo!

And on the NineInchNachos blog, Thorax OToole wrote: I want a goddess of commerce with fire and badassitude oozing out of her every pore.


www.thenewstribune.com/callaghan/story/9...

by KevinFreitas on 11/13/2009 @ 7:17am
Hahaha, great quotes guys! Thanks to Peter for including our local bloggers as sources in the conversation.

by fredo on 11/13/2009 @ 7:54am
YKWA? Erik, inTacoma, and Thorax in the mainstream media.

by Erik on 11/13/2009 @ 8:04am
I remember the Tribune quoted from "Morgan's Brain" a few months ago as well.

Overall, I would put the above Feed Tacoma art analysis against the Tacoma Art Commission.

Here is the Art Commission's ambiguous reasons for rejecting the piece:

By a 6-0 vote, the arts commission voted last month to reject the gift... They didnt like the idea of donor names being included in the base. At one time Mahoney said the facial features reflected American Indian influences, so it should have been reviewed by the Puyallup Tribe.

But the real reason seems to be that they dont like the sculpture. In a memo prepared for the City Council, economic development director Ryan Petty said the commission felt it was a well-intentioned piece lacking in distinctive artistic merit or significant aesthetic quality.

The commission also said Mahoney has no reputation, exhibition record or market.

Mahoney thinks the rejection of her gift reflects a bias against figurative art, depictions of real objects, often humans and animals, that represent what they actually look like.

They dont like figurative art. They dont want any more Larry Andersons, Mahoney said, referring to the bronze artist who created the New Beginnings sculpture outside Union Station and similar works. What started out as such a positive thing has turned into one thing after another.

Mahoney thinks the rejection of her gift reflects a bias against figurative art, depictions of real objects, often humans and animals, that represent what they actually look like.
humans and animals, that represent what they actually look like.

www.thenewstribune.com/callaghan/story/9...

by fredo on 11/13/2009 @ 8:42am
The real problem with the statue is that it glorifies commerce. As we all know commerce and those engaged in commerce are evil. All they want to do is make a profit and use people like slaves.

What we really need is a goddess of entitlement. She should be depicted wearing Air Jordans, have a huge rear end, and be holding a housing voucher in one hand, and a sheaf of food stamps in the other.

by NineInchNachos on 11/13/2009 @ 1:23pm
Given the TNT interest I think it's time to do a 'goddess' tacomic.
but maybe a goddess re-imagined for each location...

- goddess of winthrop
- goddess of tideflats
- goddess AS IS
- goddess of murano

by Erik on 11/13/2009 @ 1:30pm
The NENC is thinking of taking the Goddess in an placing her in the North End somewhere. She's currently homeless.

by Mofo from the Hood on 11/13/2009 @ 8:20pm
The Real Problem with the statue: It's a goddess.


by L.S.Erhardt on 11/13/2009 @ 8:57pm
Why does everyone seem to think there is an "e" in O'Tool?
It's TOOL as in "Eric Anderson is a tool", not as in "Aye laddy, I'm Shamus O'Toole, king of the Wee Folk".

Anyway, getting my alter ego mentioned on the Trib with a wicked quote is pretty awesome.

by Crenshaw Sepulveda on 11/13/2009 @ 9:40pm
The was a replica of the Statue of Liberty on the grounds of the old Washington State Historical Museum out by the Stadium Bowl. I wonder if it is still there? If it is gone I think I have an idea for something to replace it.

search.tacomapubliclibrary.org/images2/1...

by jenyum on 11/13/2009 @ 9:47pm
That is a really cool building, is there anything in it anymore?

by Crenshaw Sepulveda on 11/13/2009 @ 10:28pm
I'm not entirely certain about what is in the old Washington State Historical Society Museum building. I think I heard it might be used for archives and research but maybe I heard wrong. It really is an amazing building in a terrific location. I suspect it will become condos some day.

by L.S.Erhardt on 11/13/2009 @ 11:24pm
Not everything needs to be condos.

But I do like that mini-statue of Liberty. Should make myself one of those.

by Raido on 11/14/2009 @ 9:36am
Crenshaw pretty much has it right about the old Washington State Historical Society Museum building being used for archives and research. I think it also houses parts of the permanent collection that are not on display at the current museum site.

by fredo on 11/14/2009 @ 10:05am
The old museum is being prepared to house Connie Ladenburg's cryrogenically frozen brain. The hope is that some day in the future the city will end term limits for council members, and we will be able to let her run for her seat again.

by Crenshaw Sepulveda on 11/14/2009 @ 10:36am
fredo, what makes you think it isn't here already?

by Erik on 2/2/2010 @ 11:16am
Update on the curse of Tollefson Plaza:

The Tacoma-Pierce County Chamber announced today it has returned management responsibilities of Tollefson Plaza downtown to the City of Tacoma. The Chamber entered into a license agreement with the City to manage Tollefson Plaza in the spring of 2008. The license agreement did not include City funding.


According to Chelsea Levy, the Chamber's Metropolitan Development Manager, the "recent and current economic situation has made it extremely difficult to secure adequate funding and sponsorships to fully underwrite staffing and appropriate marketing for meaningful programming of the Plaza.


"Unfortunately, those challenging economic conditions and Plaza design issues have combined to thwart the Chamber's ambitions to provide active management and programming for Tollefson Plaza," she added. "As a result, the Chamber has requested to be released from its license agreement with the City of Tacoma."

Inquiries regarding rental of Tollefson Plaza should be directed to the Tacoma City Clerk's office.


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by ixia on 2/2/2010 @ 11:21am
As I remember it, the Chamber had 65'000 bucks to burn on the Plaza. Where is the smoke?

by Altered Chords on 2/2/2010 @ 12:27pm
We need to start from scratch. We need to start interviewing models to pose for a new statue.

Altered Chords Productions will begin the model screening process Wednesday @ 3:00 pm. Models must be comfortable wielding a sword and must have at least completed Economics 102 (micro economics)

Goddess like qualities a plus.

Females only please.

by NineInchNachos on 2/2/2010 @ 1:11pm
you crack me up sir.

by morgan on 2/2/2010 @ 2:15pm
I hear new Council member David Boe will be taking up a "re-imagining" of the plaza. We're behind you David!

by Erik on 8/18/2011 @ 1:41am
BREAKING: The underground 7' bronze statute Goddess of Commerce (the brainchild of Babe Lehrer) will be unveiled in the Triangle District (Tacoma, WA)/Tacoma Theater District Association Wednesday August 31, 2011 at 4:00 pm at 6th and St Helens half a block from Amocat Cafe!!! For more information see (Support Tacoma's Goddess of Commerce FB page)