Tacoma Urbanist

Oct. 23, 2012 at 1:02am

Proposition 1 Parties Debate the Record Sales Tax Rate Proposal (9.8 percent) in Tacoma on KTBC TV

Before deciding on Proposition 1, which would raise Tacoma's sales tax to a Washington state high level of 9.8 percent, of over 200+ cities (including even Seattle), consider watching the debate on the issue on KBTC:

More information on the sales tax proposal below:



comments [13]  |  posted under Tacoma


by fredo on 10/23/2012 @ 7:21am

We shouldn't cross the 9.5% threshold that we are already at. Pierce Transit should take a more concerted effort to reign in expenses.

by Erik on 10/23/2012 @ 8:41am
Here is an interesting letter to the editor in the TribuneIf Pierce Transit believes that current economic condition are causing them budget shortfalls, shouldn't the proposed sales tax increase sunset or stop at some point?

My concern is that what happens when we return to a more typical economy? I believe the chance of total economic recovery is 100 percent; I’m just not sure how much longer it will take. But when the revenues returns, will the spending return with it?


How could the system get back to where it was once economic conditions improve so Tacoma is not permanently hobbled with the highest tax rate in the state?

by cisserosmiley on 10/23/2012 @ 9:05am
The answer is; you move across the bridge...

by tacoma_1 on 10/23/2012 @ 11:22am
When the economy comes roaring back, I would expect that not only will we still need transit, but we will need more of it. 

If Downtown T Town is filled with office workers, they will need to get to work somehow.  There won't be enough parking for everyone to drive.  As baby boomers continue to age, and choose to drive less and less, we will have more transit users as long as busses are available and frequent. And the younger generation already drives less than their parents. And with increased world wide demand for gas, the price/gal is gonna rise and $4/gal wil seem like a fond distant memory.

I don't want a sunset because I don't want transit cut in the future. I want more transit in the future. 

by low bar on 10/23/2012 @ 6:25pm
When and if the economy comes back, we'll need transit. But also smart transit. Transit that is powered by cheap independent resources.

So when the roar happens, hopefully there will be people in place who can use that surplus to make sure transit is future proofed.

The oil is going to run out. Hopefully sooner then later and hopefully not at the expense of a breathable atmosphere or  catastrophic climate change.

There has to be more planning. Not just Prop 1.

There has to be a plan to get the transit on some kind of cheaper, cleaner energy i.e. LPG.

If the admin and bus drivers should take a pay cut, it should be to implement this new technology. Together with a pay cut and some grants, PT can get on LPG.

The plan to keep PT going must be two fold. If PT is planning to keep running on the same diesel at $4+ a gallon then it deserves to fail.

by fredo on 10/23/2012 @ 7:38pm
  "When the economy comes roaring back, I would expect that not only will we still need transit, but we will need more of it. " tacoma1 

Therefore... when the economy is BAD we need to have high transit taxes... and when the economy is GOOD we will still need high transit taxes.

Never has the liberal manifesto been more succinctly stated.

by tacoma_1 on 10/23/2012 @ 7:41pm
PT already runs most of their busses on natural gas. At least they did before theIr fueling facilty went boom a year ago or so. 
As soon as prop 1 passes they should have the funds to fix that easy enough if it's not fixed already. 

by low bar on 10/23/2012 @ 7:43pm
Well then problem solved if PT can get the facility back on line. 

Shut up fredo. You're an idiot. Try explaining why conservatives during the BUSH years put two wars on a credit card and created the deficit.

You can't not have taxes going into a treasury and expect a country to run well. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by fredo on 10/23/2012 @ 7:56pm
   "in absolute terms, it (natural gas) does contribute substantially to global carbon emissions, and this contribution is projected to grow." wikipedia 

While we are congratulating ourselves on using the clean alternative of natural gas by the transit buses lets try to remember that it's causing SUBSTANTIAL CARBON EMISSIONS. If you really care about the planet, then get a job that's close to your residence.

by low bar on 10/23/2012 @ 8:16pm
Oh so now its about the environment!!!

First it was about taxes.

Fredo you flip flop harder then a losing GOP candidate who's name rhymes with Twit Commie.

by tacoma_1 on 10/23/2012 @ 8:24pm
Me thinks fredo is getting paid by the Koch brothers to sit in front of his computer all day and night to spew right wing disinformation. 

by fredo on 10/23/2012 @ 8:25pm
Low bar prefers to choke our planet with LPG carbon emissions all so workers can live as far away from their jobs as possible. ...and he calls out anybody who prefers clean air.

Wow I don't prefer to breathe all your LPG carbon emissions, you pollution advocate lowbar. 

by low bar on 10/23/2012 @ 8:26pm
IF so they may want their money back bc I am not the sharpest guy and even I can follow Fredo's poor myth making.

Actually Fredo the forum idiot, LPG is cleaner compared to the cars emissions from the car dealers you are defending.