May. 15, 2012 at 11:31am
This is apalling. Didn't businesses learn MANY YEARS AGO not to discriminate against people with disabilities? Let me just say for the record, based on my experience with people who have autism, they ARE capable of doing jobs. I know someone with autism who teaches classes, and acts in plays professionally. Some of my coworkers have down syndrome (which I think trumps autism a bit) and are capable of being bussers, deli attendants, and one works in security, and does a fine job of it.
Everyone deserves a chance. Stop turning people down because of your person prejudices. I believe it's still possible to sue a business for unfair discrimination. Just something to think about.
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by L.S.Erhardt on 5/15/2012 @ 12:22pm
|Last time I checked, Autism doesn't fall under the ADA. Also, it's REALLY hard to prove discrimination during hiring.|
Not saying that it isn't wrong, just that there is little disincentive for company X to discriminate.
Now that we recognize the problem, how do we go about fixing?
by NineInchNachos on 5/15/2012 @ 12:25pm
|agreed! I heard about this on NPR the other day|
by fredo on 5/15/2012 @ 1:32pm
|High minimum wage raises the bar for all entry level employees. Autistic, minority and young people are paying a severe penalty for this feel-good initiative. Seems a little silly to enact job killing legislation, then complain about the paucity of employment opportunities.|
by fredo on 5/15/2012 @ 1:36pm
|I read the whole story that was attached. Where does it say that autistic people were being discriminated against?|
by InvaderPet on 5/15/2012 @ 2:31pm
|Well..... they probably are not. It IS an assumption on my part, and I'm also going by what other people (some who are autistic) feel, and have experienced.
If businesses discrimnate against applicants just for having an unusual name (and they do), whose to say they don't do it to someone who has a disability?
by fredo on 5/15/2012 @ 2:59pm
|Why don't the parents of autistic children begin companies that will utilize the skills of these type of individuals? Why is it always someone elses job to take care of every problem, real or imagined?|
by NineInchNachos on 5/15/2012 @ 3:02pm
|yeah! why don't people worried about food contamination or global warming start companies to make clean food and colder planets too?|
by NineInchNachos on 5/15/2012 @ 3:03pm
|and what's with my tax dollars going to pay for things like roads and nation building?
by fredo on 5/15/2012 @ 3:16pm
|"why don't people worried about food contamination or global warming start companies to make clean food and colder planets too?"
by InvaderPet on 5/15/2012 @ 3:16pm
|There actually is a group out there for autistic people who work on art-related projects and they get paid for them. But it's just one place, and I forgot what state it's in. Still, it's a good idea to have a place like that everywhere.|
by jenyum on 5/15/2012 @ 3:52pm
|The ADA does apply to people with autism. Not sure why you'd think it wouldn't.
However, "autism" is a very broad diagnosis. There are autistic people who cannot work at all, who cannot work without significant accommodations, and there are autistic people who are extremely high functioning and brilliant.
The ADA does not say that you have to hire people with disabilities even if they can't do the job after reasonable accommodation. It says that you are obligated to make reasonable accommodations for qualified people with disabilities.
Arguing about what is or isn't discrimination kind of misses the point, that we need to consider how the workplace can create and sustain jobs that will work for people with autism, since their numbers have increased drastically with this generation.
by cisserosmiley on 5/15/2012 @ 4:37pm
|We should hire autistic folks as police officers. Instead of every cop enforcing every law we could have individual autistic cops enforce one law each.|
by NineInchNachos on 5/15/2012 @ 4:44pm
by fredo on 5/15/2012 @ 4:50pm
|"we need to consider how the workplace can create and sustain jobs that will work for people with autism" jen
I made a suggestion at 2:59PM. People who have autistic family members could set up businesses that could utilize their unique skill sets. If you have a simpler suggestion...let's hear it.
by cisserosmiley on 5/15/2012 @ 4:51pm
|I just wrote one above!!|
by fredo on 5/15/2012 @ 5:00pm
|that was sweet cissero, in fact it sounds like the basis for a syndicated TV show. why don't you write a one-act screenplay?|
by jenyum on 5/15/2012 @ 7:54pm
|My cousin's daughter is on the extreme end of the autism spectrum. She works at a Wal-Mart, I'm not sure if she's a greeter or if she stocks shelves, but they make an effort to actively recruit and support employees with disabilities. I'm not a Wal-Mart fan, but I do appreciate that they do this.
She will always need support from family members as well as the state, but it's good for her (it also makes her really happy).
by cisserosmiley on 5/15/2012 @ 8:35pm
|I'm not autistic, but I am certainly applying at walmart when the job ferry comes to Tacoma|
by fredo on 5/16/2012 @ 7:29am
|In the movie "The Ringer" a normal guy pretends to be developmentally disabled so he can win all the awards at the Special Olympics.
Perhaps this strategy will be repeated by job applicants for the WalMart positions.
by InvaderPet on 5/16/2012 @ 8:40am
|Dude, don't give people ideas...|
by NineInchNachos on 5/16/2012 @ 8:43am
|don't worry, fredo never gives ideas. he just finds them under rocks left by AM radio wind bags.|
by The Jinxmedic on 5/16/2012 @ 9:58am
|The "job ferry"? Do you mean the Kalakala, perchance?|
by cisserosmiley on 5/16/2012 @ 10:46am
|By Kalakala do you mean kala kala?|
by The Jinxmedic on 5/16/2012 @ 11:24am
|No, I meant the "Kalakala". |
There may very well be good non-paying autistic jobs there!
Also known colloquially as the kalallakakalakakallaka-ak-ak-ak-ak (Cue Billy Joel)
by troysworktable on 5/16/2012 @ 3:54pm
|There actually is a "business" in Tacoma that employs those with disabilities. It is L'Arche Tahoma Hope. It consists of a farm and garden and community. They are present at various farmer's markets and were also at Wayzgoose (making paper).
by The Jinxmedic on 5/16/2012 @ 4:23pm
|And that's how you do it. Keeping it local. Nice!|
by L.S.Erhardt on 5/16/2012 @ 6:41pm
|Hm. The "Job Ferry".
That sounds like fertile ground for a dystopian novel.