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Sep. 16, 2009 at 7:00am

Dock Street Branch Closed this Morning

The branch of Dock Street that runs under 705 toward 24th/Puyallup Ave will be closed as of 8:30am this morning. The sign (shown above) didn't say when it'll re-open but hopefully that just means it won't be long.

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by L.S.Erhardt on 9/16/2009 @ 4:08pm
Every street in this city is closed, it seems like.

Part of Dock Street, So. 14th, So. 13th, So. 34th...

by KevinFreitas on 9/16/2009 @ 6:32pm
Just saw 26th at Proctor is closed as well. :S

by tacoma1 on 9/16/2009 @ 6:37pm
26th and Proctor was closed first thing this morning. Do you think that these locations are being closed temporarily, or is the City just slowly closing down?

by NineInchNachos on 9/16/2009 @ 6:42pm
looks like our guerilla artist has struck again

by Crenshaw Sepulveda on 9/16/2009 @ 7:05pm
With the berm upcoming I can see Tacoma ending up like Manhattan in Escape from New York.

by KevinFreitas on 9/16/2009 @ 8:39pm
The Dock Street chunk that's closed may not open anytime soon unfortunately. I saw it wasn't just signs it was cement blocks closing things off. Not exactly something you drop thinking to pick them up the same day. Hmm. It'd be sad not to have this route considering it's how I ride and drive to work. More to come...

by Jake on 9/16/2009 @ 9:25pm
It is going to be closed permanently. It is part of the BNSF deal with the city where the city is getting the Prairie Line for the trail.

by KevinFreitas on 9/16/2009 @ 10:05pm
Anyone who doesn't want to see Kevin angry, skip the following:

??? Holy shit! That's complete and utter garbage. Sorry, not taking it out on you at all Jake. But that's fucking absurd. Thanks City of Tacoma. For cutting off a useful route through town. Time to stop bending over for the railroads. No berm. Open back up Dock Street. Bloody hell. Really not pleased that the Dome District is getting pissed on so much lately.

/rage-ahol

On a more constructive note, I'm very disappointed that this wasn't something brought to the people and vetted. Not sure how this really benefits the railroad considering trains don't usually stop for cars but the other way around. How their business is effected is beyond me. Yes, there's the overpass at "D" Street which is great. But I like having options and not it's only going to be more difficult and confusing for people getting to/from the freeway and museums. Time to write some emails...

Why does this all seem to hark back to another wall that was attempted a few years ago? Berm? Dock Street blockade?

by fredo on 9/16/2009 @ 10:43pm
RE: the construction work at 26th and Proctor.

This was discussed on feedtacoma on 6/5/08. You can find the discussion listed under "east side". The intersection is being closed for 3 or 4 weeks to place stamped concrete crosswalks to "beautify" the neighborhood. Forget the fact the the pavement in this area was in grade A condition and was fully complemented with handicapped curb cuts. Just another example of the city fixing something that's not broken and ignoring deteriorating infrastructure.

by Joel 413 on 9/16/2009 @ 11:32pm
I seem to remember reading about this a long time ago as apart of the overpass/sounder extension project. That in order to have a 'hornless corridor' that the city would be closing the A St/Dock St spur. It also floods frequently.

Having lived at the top of 25th street for 4 years, I can attest to many a hot, 'aromatic', summer night where I had trouble sleeping because of the required, long-long-short-long whistle required for trains at crossings... and this was at D Street and A street... all night long. Now with the overpass and A/Dock St closed, there are no crossings on the east side of the Tacoma penninsula that require a train to blow it's horn. The crossing at McCarver Street in Old Town has the electronic signal. So it will end up being a drastic reduction of noise pollution.

by KevinFreitas on 9/17/2009 @ 6:32am
@Joel: Point well taken. Still, it seems it will only add confusion to folks trying to get to/from Dock Street from the freeway and downtown. Not to mention it cuts off a great bike bypass of downtown that I use so I don't have to take my chances with more intersections and parked cars through downtown.

by wildcelticrose on 9/17/2009 @ 6:58am
There is heavy construction going on at 26 and Proctor, the signs warning of the closure have been up for a few days. When I went to pick up my mail at the UPS store, they were tearing up the sidewalks with a jack hammer. They are also doing a lot of construction on streets that intersect N 21st.

Tis the season for road construction.

On a seemingly unrelated note, I see that the lines (yellow and white) are painted on the section of North 21st where they put in the bike lanes, but the lines for the controversial bike lanes are not painted...

by fredo on 9/17/2009 @ 7:08am
Kevin@ You've noted in previous postings that the city is very responsive to things you've brought to their attention, so why don't you call somebody at city hall and get this fixed? There are probably a lot of people like yourself who use this roadway. I use it myself when I give out of town guests a tour of Tacoma's abortive redevelopment projects.

by KevinFreitas on 9/17/2009 @ 7:18am
@wild: I noticed the same thing. Perhaps they have to pain them separately with a different machine since they also have to lay down the diamond and other related bike lane icons.

@fredo: I plan to email the mayor, the city manager, and my city council member today on the topic. I'll post my text in case anyone else would like to do the same.

It really is a useful route that, considering the already sad access to/from Dock Street, shouldn't be cut off.

by L.S.Erhardt on 9/17/2009 @ 7:22am
Also remember that we're supposed to get the Prairie Line to "eventually" become a green corridor thru downtown. I'll gladly take that in lieu of the street.

Now, if the city will just keep it's end of the deal and build us that corridor.

by fredo on 9/17/2009 @ 7:31am
The mayor is a lame duck so maybe we better get the positions from the Merritt and Strickland camps on the Dock Street closing. Maybe RR could a fourth circle to his previously enhanced Venn diagram to show how Dock St. relates to the campaign.

by Jake on 9/17/2009 @ 7:58am
If I recall Merritt was very against closing the A Street underpass. The underpass is closed a lot of the time due to flooding during the rainy season. I believe the WSDOT was supposed to fix the drainage problems but never did.
Not sure if it was related to closing A Street but there is/was talk of eventually (or the potential of) adding slip ramps off 509 to Dock Street.

by tacoma1 on 9/17/2009 @ 8:00am
To close Dock street seems to be a car centric decision, that may make sense for autos, but blocks off access for cyclists and pedestrians to the Thea Foss waterway and the new park (does it have a name?) that was just installed. I don't blame Kevin for being pissed.

It appears as though no one was listening when Dan Burden came to town a couple years back to talk about walkable communities.

www.walkable.org/about.html


by tacoma1 on 9/17/2009 @ 8:00am
To close Dock street seems to be a car centric decision, that may make sense for autos, but blocks off access for cyclists and pedestrians to the Thea Foss waterway and the new park (does it have a name?) that was just installed. I don't blame Kevin for being pissed.

It appears as though no one was listening when Dan Burden came to town a couple years back to talk about walkable communities.

www.walkable.org/about.html


by tacoma1 on 9/17/2009 @ 9:37am
Sorry for the double posting above, computer/operator error apparently.

It's kind of funny in a way, I googled prairie line, and came up with this article in the TNT. The second paragraph is priceless. Looks like there are plans (or at least the intention) to restore biking and pedestrian access. Maybe if the City followed through on the public notification that didn't happen, people would be less surprised/shocked/angry/informed/accepting/satisfied in that order.

"The plan calls for the city to close part of A Street that crosses the BNSF main line beneath Interstate 705. City officials could give notice of a temporary closure soon, and would follow up with a public hearing on the planned permanent closure, Petty said.

The city will solicit input on how to design the closure so it's not "just a Jersey Barricade," Petty said.

Eventually, the city hopes to build a biking and pedestrian trail on the stretch of the old Prairie Line between South 15th and 27th streets."

blogs.thenewstribune.com/politics/2009/0...

by Joe TS on 9/20/2009 @ 8:44am
The closure looks to be permanent. I have a "go" to remove the signal equipment. On the upside, our electric bill will be reduced by $9.78 a month.

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