Apr. 27, 2011 at 9:43pm
$750,000.00 Free Gregoire Dollars for 47? Stall Parking Lot to benefit ONE Private Company
Filling in the hole Tacoma spent like 2 million to carefully clean out.. Luxury parking lot! The URBAN EXPLORER remembers seeing the renderings, truly a marvel of modern parking lots. Will have potted trees and everything! Removal of the ancient sidewalk vault below.
Was approached by a young Flag Girl... "What are you taking photos of?" Asked she.
"I've never seen a $700,000 parking lot being constructed." Said I.
She turned to look at the growing pile of dirt with a new sense of wonder.
think I saw this in a cartoon once... perhaps a past life.
Somebody snort too much bath salt today? These things make bad mummies. Even so, paid parking holiday in DaVita Universe!
Funny thing is there is a TAGRO Dump load of parking in this area..
A private Diamond Parking lot literally in their backyard. Half empty? Half Full? Depends on your unique world perspective. Maybe DaVita just wants to boycott Diamond Parking for their obscene support for Clear Channel Billboards. How about we remove the time limits on all the Tacoma Parking Meters and stick it to Diamond Parking bottom feeders?
Even so, we wish the corporate power executives at DaVita luck! May all your kidneys fail.
* * UPDATE! 6/30/2011 * *
comments  | posted under corruption, culture of yes, davita, gritty, jobs, kidneys, obscenity, paint it black, promises, tacomaComments
by NineInchNachos on 4/27/2011 @ 10:27pm
|more parking lot p0rn www.flickr.com/groups/tacoma-parking-lot...|
by ixia on 4/27/2011 @ 10:29pm
by L.S.Erhardt on 4/28/2011 @ 12:33am
|Ugh. Sometimes this city disgusts me.|
by fredo on 4/28/2011 @ 6:19am
|Nobody can identify priorities for our tax money like Chris Gregoire. The lady is a goddess.|
by KevinFreitas on 4/28/2011 @ 7:01am
|They're filling it?! That'll make future building on that spot just that much more expensive. Besides, why use the protection from wind and easy car prowling of the previously sunken lot? This is a terrible use of any lot downtown -- city funded or not! Our leadership should be ashamed.
by NineInchNachos on 4/28/2011 @ 7:54am
|it is an embarrassment really. Kudos to Ryan Mello, David Boe and Marty Campbell for voting NO on this.
imagine this 30 second spot:
Q: TACOMA YOU'VE JUST WON $700 THOUSAND DOLLARS! WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO?
A: I'M BUILDING A SURFACE PARKING LOT!
by Jesse on 4/28/2011 @ 8:15am
|They promised DeVita parking so they needed to follow through on that promise to keep their integrity in the business community.|
However, there were WAY better options here. This fill dirt will cost any developer a ton of money to dig back out making the lot that much more expensive to develop.
Better plans to keep the parking promise to DeVita?
1. Save more money and build a huge parking lot underground at that site and make sure a large building has the ability to be built on top of it making the site MORE desirable for a developer.
2. Simply move the promised spaces to another of the zillion surface level parking lots in town and use the $700k elsewhere.
3. Allow permitting for vehicles to park on the street as long as they want in certain areas downtown. Like buying a pass for $500 for the year to get a "Yellow Permit" to stick in your window and designate some areas downtown as "Pay to Park or Yellow Permit" and keep the super busy areas "Hourly Parking Only" parking.
4. Trade the promised parking stalls for a number of Pierce Transit passes that both parties feel is a good trade.
IMO, the city needs to take back operations of parking from Diamond Park or start taking debit cards/credit cards and label public parking owned by the city better. IE - recognizable and consistent signage indicating it's a publicly owned lot so patrons know they'll only pay a fair amount when parking there. That being, nothing like the $14 an hour I paid last time I was in Seattle because I happened to park in a screw of a lot..
by fredo on 4/28/2011 @ 8:30am
|Why did we promise parking for DaVita? What did Tacoma get out of this? Could someone link a document that describes this parking promise/contract? I took a course in law when I was in business school and they said promises without consideration were unenforceable and contracts that were not in writing were unenforceable.|
by NineInchNachos on 4/28/2011 @ 8:51am
|i believe it was a gentleman's agreement. to write anything down would be illegal/unethical
juicy bits here www.tacomadailyindex.com/portals-code/li...
by Mofo from the Hood on 4/28/2011 @ 9:13am
|It's weird that the City of Tacoma economic development strategy is based on parking lots and curbside angle parking, and now its "green" flat lot component: community gardens. |
So let's take a common reference: The Tacoma Mall. The general conversation sometimes refers to the parking lot as the reason why people choose to travel to the Mall.
In reality the reason why people choose to travel to the Mall involves two plainly visible economic development factors: The Mall provides jobs plus goods and services.
The Tacoma Mall didn't evolve from a parking lot or a community garden.
But beyond that the major motivation for building the Mall didn't come from government employees who believe that the way to build society is to tax the population and give the money to a polyarchy of government brothers who decree what shall be.
by fredo on 4/28/2011 @ 9:15am
|Thanks Nachos, it's a great link
"we have a really good employer who is still downtown and willing to stay in Tacoma. For that reason, I will support it, as well." Victoria woodards
Apparently someone at DaVita told the city that if they were given this parking lot they might be willing to add up to 350 jobs in DT Tacoma. I didn't read anywhere in the story about how we are going to hold them to this "promise." It's possible that DaVita was planning to ramp up their employment numbers anyway and just saw a way to leverage this decision into some taxpayer funded benefit.
The taxpayers have a right to see a clear exposition of this entire matter. It seems that what Tacoma has done is establish a precedent for future businesses. All they have to do is promise that they are going to deliver something beneficial to the city and the taxpayers are obligated to pony up a 3/4 million dollar buildout.
Once again the invisible hand of the Democratic Party machine works it's incredible magic
by NineInchNachos on 4/28/2011 @ 9:22am
|it twas a case of straight up extortion: Give us the parking lot or we move to Fife. Public/Private Entrepreneurship ! |
Woodards would be an excellent negotiator with Somali Pirates. Just pay the ransom and move forward!
I'd rather have a Community Garden, much cheaper and least you'd have a plot of land producing something--a habitat for the creator's glorious life forms.
by fredo on 4/28/2011 @ 9:36am
|Hey, lets back up a bit.
Before DaVita ever approached the city with this employment for parking lot proposal the city manager said the taxpayers should pay for soil contamination remediation on the Sauro's site because of it's enormous development potential. The taxpayers spent millions scrubbing this place clean. This was a PROMISE made by the city of Tacoma to it's citizens. Invest a lot of scarce tax dollars in this site and someday a developer will pay us a lot of money and we'll have a wonderful development DT. This was a PROMISE. The taxpayers have fulfilled their promise now we want our elected officials to keep their promise. The city cannot morally give away our wonderful development site just because some cigar smoking bagman from a Wall Street company had a hunch he might be able to get something for nothing.
Just another striking example of just how dysfunctional our city is. When will the voters awaken?
by NineInchNachos on 4/28/2011 @ 10:03am
|I'm okay with pitching in to clean up toxic waste... smart government move. the parking lot is a crime however. you know how rare underground parking is in Tacoma? What a waste of a clean hole!|
by fredo on 4/28/2011 @ 10:07am
|I agree the waste should have been cleaned up anyway.
But the City Manager, Eric Anderson was able to get funding for the cleanup by describing the wonderful development potential of the site.
Would the $2,000,000 cleanup money have been approved if the city had said they were going to give the the site away by virtue of some phone call that someone made to Mayor Strickland? I doubt it.
by Mofo from the Hood on 4/28/2011 @ 11:11am
|CITY HALL BROTHERHOOD OF MAN MASTER PLAN FOR TACOMA:
1) Send public service union missionaries from City Hall to promote the Brotherhood Of Man gospel to neighborhood community councils and organized business associations.
2) Explain that the flight of private businessmen (employers) is due to lack of parking.
3) Exasperate the population by reforming the cityscape into parking spaces (for public/private members of El Gaucho's Happy Hour Club and their puppets and slaves).
4) Increase subsistence farming plots (for unemployed peasants and illegal immigrants).
5) Promote public transportation as the foundation of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
6) Realize that City Hall's economic theory of man is flawed.
by NineInchNachos on 4/28/2011 @ 11:23am
|Dear Mr. Mofo: Cogito Ergo Sum|
Perhaps this rational line of thinking will help you realize the flaws in your own master plans.
Also, are you your brother's keeper?
by NineInchNachos on 6/30/2011 @ 8:32am
|update: WE'RE FINISHED!
I think we got shafted on the landscaping... doesn't look as lush as the artist rendering of the luxury surface parking lot... That happens with big macs too no?
by tacoma1 on 6/30/2011 @ 8:42am
Is that a pay lot for anyone to use?
Or is it only available to Davita employees?
by NineInchNachos on 6/30/2011 @ 9:01am
|Go park in there and find out. It's your money!|
by tacoma1 on 6/30/2011 @ 9:20am
|I'm more curious about whether my tax dollars are paying for perks for a private business.
Personally, I'm rarely in need of parking in DT Tacoma. My combo of feet, bus, and a car (only when I really need one) serves me pretty well.
by NineInchNachos on 6/30/2011 @ 9:23am
|To bad more people didn't read Peter's column:|
"Some people are taking from your post that Gregoire made the decision as to how to spend that money. That is shifting blame from Anderson and Council, those who actually made decision.
This column shows that Gregoire offered the money to keep Russell and then to keep Davita. City could have spent it any number of ways."
by NineInchNachos on 6/30/2011 @ 9:33am
|~ ONE ACT PLAY BY RR ANDERSON ~ |
it went a little something like this:
Davita: Give us a parking lot or we're moving to fife !
Eric Anderson: OK I'll let the Council know my master.
Council: hmm, its lame but the council made a promise and a promise is a promise.
Boe+Mello: Can't we fill the hole with a parking garage ready for a building on top?
Eric Anderson + City Lawyers: That would be illegal, the money we're using to build a parking lot for DaVita can't be used to benefit any one specific private company.
Council: hmm, its lame but i'm no lawyer so whatever.
~ THE END ~
by Nick on 6/30/2011 @ 11:14am
|I don't know what you guys are talking about, I'm really excited about this parking lot! I'll gladly pay my share of $ 0.75M to help add to the mountain of reasons Eric Anderson should be fired.
Yes, that's how much I want to see him gone. I'm willing to PAY to make it happen. :-D
by NineInchNachos on 6/30/2011 @ 11:28am
|From the Peter Callaghan column I see we were promised benches. Do you see any benches in my FIN photo ?|
by The Jinxmedic on 6/30/2011 @ 11:35am
|You can't have benches! People might SIT on them!!1!|
by Jesse on 6/30/2011 @ 11:39am
|Trying to find the win here, I suppose it does look better than it did.|
by NineInchNachos on 6/30/2011 @ 11:46am
|We don't need no stinking benches!|
by NineInchNachos on 6/30/2011 @ 11:54am
|more parking lots coming soon...
by Jesse on 6/30/2011 @ 12:12pm
|A perfect spot for Tacoma's first food truck/cart food court.|
by NineInchNachos on 6/30/2011 @ 2:50pm
|~ A CONVERSATION WITH ANONYMOUS ~
A: The best time for transparent government is after concrete is poured.
RR: Is that a dig at the Cheney Stadium?
A: That's a dig at Cheney, Davita lot, Fulghum - all of it. Pertinent details seeming to emerge long after anything can be done about them. It's primarily a failing of the press. The press focuses on "scandals" that are easily understood and blows them out of proportion for the sake of sensation, while lacking the savvy to track, comprehend and present the miscarriages of governance that ooze like sandy grease from gear to gear to gear within City Hall. The City has the privilege of being its own press and presenting things from its own perspective because the print community has not invested in embedding itself in the minutiae. There is no perspective to build when the City presents a story and the biggest paper in town simply reacts after they've had time to understand the story in layman's terms.
RR: Same thing probably happens in Mayberry. What can we do?
by The Jinxmedic on 6/30/2011 @ 3:03pm
|Don't forget- that's what happened to the Luzon, too.|
by NineInchNachos on 6/30/2011 @ 3:11pm
by The Jinxmedic on 6/30/2011 @ 3:51pm
|That's why I put the "THE" in Luzon. Sheesh.|
by NineInchNachos on 6/30/2011 @ 4:04pm
by NineInchNachos on 6/30/2011 @ 4:06pm
|hey whatever happened to the Luzon Brick?|
by NineInchNachos on 7/6/2011 @ 11:28pm
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