chrism39's Blog

Feb. 7, 2009 at 2:49pm

5 views is a big baby.

I'm glad 5 views is closing comments, then I won't be tempted to try and debate such a narrow, closed, minded man. The only reason he believes only one or two posters have any merit, is because they are the only other wack jobs who agree with him.�

Saying that Islam or Atheism brings no good to the world is ridiculous and kinda unchristian. Isn't it funny how usually the loudest christians are the ones not even following what they preach.�

See you 5 views, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

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by Nick on 2/7/2009 @ 5:09pm
Meh ....

May this be the last day I ever waste braincells thinking about that guy ;-) I'm all for a conservative perspective to offset the rest of us, I think bringing a bit more balance to any discussion is important. That being said, how about someone that behaves like an adult please?

by NineInchNachos on 2/7/2009 @ 5:20pm
Thank my fine brothers and sisters of the Tacoma atheists!


by drizell on 2/7/2009 @ 5:58pm
Good riddance that Mr. 5Views wants to close his blog to commenters. I don't say that because I disagree with what he has to say, but I've never liked how the moderator conducts himself.

I have commented on 5Views a couple times. Most of what I wrote disagreed with the moderator's point of view, but not everything. Each time I commented, Mr. 5Views would post a reply comment within 10 minutes, without fail. Apparently, the moderator would post something that he knew would ruffle some feathers, then wait around by his computer until someone made a point to the contrary, then fuel the fire by writing a post in direct response to that comment.

This is very different than nearly every other blog on the Feed. Exit133's moderators write a post, then take a laissez faire approach, letting everyone else set the tone of the discussion. It appears the only purpose of 5Views was start fights with people, instead of meaningful discussion. So again, good riddance!

by jenyum on 2/7/2009 @ 6:53pm
I don't mind provocative posts or arguments, but since he started banning people shortly after he started his blog I never saw any point in reading it or getting riled up about it.

by chrism39 on 2/8/2009 @ 10:08am
I am glad to get these agreements, I spent the night wondering if I was too harsh.

by zastica on 2/8/2009 @ 10:34am
I for one am ashamed that I never got banned from his blog. :(

by Mofo from the Hood on 2/8/2009 @ 2:31pm
5views doesn't need anyone to defend his action, but it sounds to me like a publicity stunt.

Now if my friend NIN would have posted that same action, most of us would have thought he was being himself.

But it could be possible that 5views is just reorganizing his site---setting up a border check of sorts. He's requiring people to i.d. themselves for clearance to comment.

Are you 5views worthy?

by Brooks on 2/8/2009 @ 11:58pm
After reading the latest 5Views posts, I'm starting to wonder if the question is not whether we're worthy of 5views but if 5Views is FeedTacoma worthy.

What FeedTacoma is about, or so it seems to me, is to foster a community.

What 5Views seems to be about is not to highlight or discuss the state of right-wing politics in Tacoma or Pierce County, but to bash those who fail to agree with the viewpoints of its author.

by tacoma1 on 2/9/2009 @ 7:51am
5views should change his name to 1narrowview, it would be more accurate.

by jenyum on 2/9/2009 @ 8:09am
I try not to give the guy any clickthroughs if I can help it. I've done that too much following this discussion, but I did have to point out that we're spending an awful lot of time on a guy who can't even fill out his "about the author" blurb on his blog.

by seejane on 2/9/2009 @ 9:32am
Guys like 5views will be in heaven after the second coming. I for one do not want to spend eternity with them.

Imagine hell over rum with bleeding heart liberals!

by seejane on 2/9/2009 @ 9:33am
Is the domain available?

by zastica on 2/9/2009 @ 9:52am
@seejane - Possibly. It didn't resolve. how about


by Mofo from the Hood on 2/9/2009 @ 11:14am
Well what is it about 5views that some people find offensive?

Is it that they had their FEELINGS hurt?

Can't argue about feelings.

On 5views latest post he said that he finds rap music offensive. Then he lists REASONS why he THINKS so---Not why he FEELS that way.

You what I THINK is crazy? Some of the nonsensical laws that people try to pass in the name of personal freedom. The guiding PRINCIPLE for so-called progressives is personal choice. Guess what. If there is no standard for choices other than whatever one FEELS is right for them personally then the whole of civilization is doomed---There can be no science, justice, or politics. There would be no point in voting on any decision because every individual decision is right.

5views has a conservative standpoint. He has a philosophical basis for his arguments. His defense of traditional values is based on a worldview–the authority of the Bible–a worldview that many people work on daily to devalue and displace in society.

In the 18th century, Immanuel Kant argued that man cannot know God theoretically. But he also said that we must assume His existence as a practical necessity in order for ethics to be possible.

So now, here is 5views suspended between the meaningless and the meaningful. How could one determine if what 5views propounds is just crazy or a practical necessity? In order to sort out all of the statements from him and about him, Kant would say that we need to use a combination of rationalism: the law of non-contradiction, empiricism: the law of causality, and intuition. Kant would conclude by saying that the progression of knowledge about 5views is limited to the extent that we have access to sensations. So, does 5views point of view, as far as we can empirically verify, correspond to reality? Are his views based on a practical necessity that make civilization possible?

by jenyum on 2/9/2009 @ 11:22am
Plenty of his "views" are not in any way based on the bible, but on some misguided interpretation of modern libertarian ideology.

Regardless, I don't think anyone had their "feelings" hurt - I don't think it's important enough to care that much one way or another. Mofo - you are welcome to go on for as long as you want about Kant, empiricism, causality, yada yada, and no one here is likely to delete your comments or ban them. That is why it is worth having a discussion here, and not worth bothering with 5views.

If his blog were a personal account of his life and he didn't want certain comments that would be one thing. But politics, in a democratic society, is about discourse. Political blogs at their best epitomize that. 5views is just one guy's warped screed about his opinion, masquerading as a political blog, and I personally don't care to read it.

by Mofo from the Hood on 2/9/2009 @ 11:38am
I think in order to have a discussion about any topic it's important that one defines their terms. What I offered in my last post was a process of inquiry to clarify what is known about 5views.

If I personally want to persuade someone to a point of view, I'm not interested in swaying passions and emotions with buzzwords and rhetorical finesse. I want people to acquiesce to the truth.

by Mofo from the Hood on 2/9/2009 @ 12:03pm
Addendum: We often here that society is in the Post Christian Era or Postmodern Era. The more common term is Post Kantian Era.

by NineInchNachos on 2/9/2009 @ 9:18pm
The great tragedy of 5views is that the dude has absolutely no sense for showmanship and an even lesser capacity for humor. One could argue that his site in it's entirety is very funny, but for the purposes of this comment we shall avoid such a classification.

The loser here is 'the people' who never comment but enjoy the spectacle of a great argument between equally ridiculous and opposing views. Who is it that said reality is much more ridiculous than any human can imagine?

We all know how lonely an argument with yourself can be. looking though 5 views it is remarkable how the majority of his insanity goes unanswered (no comments).

Feedtacoma was probably the most online excitement that poor man of many flaws has ever endured. Some site admins just aren't cut out for the overclocked lifestyle.

Even so, Lets all look to 5views as a learning tool to see how the other half lives, what they think and how we can manipulate that (non-sexually) to our advantage.

by Mofo from the Hood on 2/9/2009 @ 10:56pm
EXHIBIT A: "Even so, Lets all look to 5views as a learning tool to see how the other half lives, what they think and how we can manipulate that (non-sexually) to our advantage."

Ladies and gentlemen, this is the kind of statement that results from years of public school education. This is Darwin's legacy.

If you teach people that they are descended from animals, then how else would you expect them to act?

by marumaruyopparai on 2/9/2009 @ 11:08pm
Oh snap!!!

by NineInchNachos on 2/9/2009 @ 11:19pm
i'm just sayin. lets turn AIDS into lemonAIDS.

why does everything instantly have to be painted as a negative ?

by Erik on 2/9/2009 @ 11:30pm
I regret now that I never posted on 5 views.

Tacoma actually needs a good conservative blog to balance out the politically correct liberals. Tollefson Plaza and the city parking garages were a result of miguided do gooder statists.

Yet, the comments on 5 views opposing his opinion appear to be simply too painful for him to even to view.

by NineInchNachos on 2/9/2009 @ 11:34pm
I can only imagine the vivid and confusing emotions running through Mr. 5views mind after reading the comment about that one gentleman's manly life partner.

so friggin sweet.

by Mofo from the Hood on 2/10/2009 @ 6:37pm
If Mr. 5views is just fine tuning his site, which I think I is, he should add some background music. For the intro I'd recommend metal like Iron Maiden, Number of the Beast.

by Mofo from the Hood on 2/10/2009 @ 6:39pm
If Mr. 5views is just fine tuning his site, which I think he is, he should add some background music. For the intro I'd recommend metal like Iron Maiden, Number of the Beast.


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