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Aug. 11, 2008 at 6:01pm

Manifest Destiny In Bad Decline

A Day in the Life of Jay Ray and the Consumer Culture of Corruption Destroying Civilization

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As a generation of our young people are systematically destroyed in other people's countries so that I can enjoy freedom one has to wonder, where did we go wrong?  

Trust as Market Positioning

Do you have confidence that your retirement savings will be there for you in the golden years?   Do you expect the government to bail out every massive corporate failure?  Do you think spending your dwindling capital on a last ditch effort to turn things around?  You must be real stupid.  You may be a lot of things.   One thing you're not is alone.   I hope that makes you feel better.

  1. http://www.jayray.com/blog/whats-difference/bad-times-marketing/
  2. http://www.jayray.com/blog/health-scan/to-manage-thrill-ride-change-1/
  3. http://www.jayray.com/blog/health-scan/branding-begins-at-1/

Point Counterpoint 



comments [28]  |  posted under devolution, marketing, skeptic, tacoma, values

Comments

by Mofo from the Hood on 8/11/2008 @ 7:59pm
When did things go wrong?

Let's start from the start. When conversations about marketing focus on the Net as the only marketing way to go, I'd say there goes hundreds of years of culture banished to the ash bin. The World Wide Web has wiped out thousands of jobs and social networks with actual human face to face interaction.

2001: Economy tanked along with thousands of E-commerce style business plans.
2007-08-? Economy tanked because of ? Maybe E-commerce products of every imaginable type priced far below previous market pricing. If it costs 10 cents to make a pencil and you sell it on the Net for 5 cents, no amount of volume sales will make a profit. Remember, that business plan was revealed as stupid in 2001.

When books printed on paper with a printing press became affordable for the masses, it caused a major culture shift. Young people who learned to read and discovered the wisdom of the ages in books soon began to think that maybe older adults weren't so valuable anymore.

Nowadays the Net has amplified that very same problem. It's only a matter of time before the hawkers of marketing by Net only will soon hawk themselves into obsolescence.

Hasta la vista Mofo's.



by scout on 8/11/2008 @ 8:25pm
No mo Mofo? Say it ain't so!

by Rue on 8/11/2008 @ 8:42pm
I'm looking forward to your book, RR.

by Mofo from the Hood on 8/11/2008 @ 9:04pm
Mr. Anderson, your book? Are collaborating with Spencer on JRay blog comments, and now books?

Give me a F'ing break. Two half wits don't make a whole.

Scout, WTF, are you a supposed to be a talking cat or is that photo your girlfriend?

by NineInchNachos on 8/11/2008 @ 9:09pm
I have nothing to do with this!


by deeble interactive on 8/11/2008 @ 9:12pm
havent you figured it out yet?

RR *IS* spencer


how many other unsuspecting web puppets have you created RR? how many?

You make me sick. phoney.

by NineInchNachos on 8/11/2008 @ 9:29pm
hey deeble. at least i'm not the one who's tired of staring at your fucking titties!



I ask that you please leave me out of your insane tirades.

by Mofo from the Hood on 8/11/2008 @ 10:49pm
Mr. Deeble, RR is NinchInchNachos. That much I've figured out. Spencer is a legitimate 21st Century Self-Help guru trained by Oprah Winfry. As for you, I'm pretty sure that you're a PR agent for JRay. That crass billboard above mentioning women's (edited) could only come from a sockpuppet of your demeanor---the Emergent Church movement Christian---(according to your blog), Burger King style Christianity, "your way"; as in give the people what they want, cater to their feelings. 99.9% manipulation.

And as for some real news, the unholy trinity of Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler, have caused more grief for humanity in the 20th century than all other leaders and wars combined in the history of the world. I'm guessing those cat photos are proof that Karma is real. Reincarnation is real, just like Oprah and her New Age friends promote.

Okay, I've got to go now and prepare my offering envelope for some Christian missionaries bringing Bibles to China. We're going to need all the recruits we can get to fend off the growing Islamic movement. They would love nothing better than to slaughter New Ager's, Cultural Christians, and Western style marketers.

by NineInchNachos on 8/11/2008 @ 11:31pm
Mofo hits on a sensitive topic.


story time!

Last year when I was shopping for used sewing machines for my sexy wife, I found one on craigslist. I began a superficial friendly relationship with the woman selling the sewing machine as a strategy for getting a better deal on the price.

I learned that her church group was organizing relief for the victims of hurricane Katrina. "Wow that's great!" I exclaimed in celebration of her altruism.

Later I found out the 'victims' of hurricane Katrina this group were so selflessly helping out were ABANDONED DOGS.

God damn people were dying... but the dogs were being helped! good grief.


by Mofo from the Hood on 8/12/2008 @ 12:03am
Dogs are a sensitive topic for sure. I've never owned one, but some people that do sometimes act more squirrelly than religious fanatics (who the F needs a rottweiler?). In Bible Belt states if you shoot a dog, the penalty is life in prison without parole. If you shoot a person, six months.


by droid116 on 8/12/2008 @ 11:26am
Point 1) I am Spartacus.

Point 2) The web has allowed for a great many disintermediations to occur, and service companies that did not adjust were washed away. The middle man was seriously devalued. Others adopted and adapted and are doing fine. Greater reach, larger customer bases and better service are all now POSSIBLE.

That doesn't mean it is the case for every business. If you don't create value and relationships then you will not succeed long term.

When the assembly line was introduced, it changed the world, for good and for bad. Any going back now would involve something catastrophic.

The web has also allowed for the cottage industry shops to carry on.

The economy of 2008 has tanked, not due to manipulation of stocks and accounts associated with dot.com dreams, but of fictionalized loan, bond and hedge fund mechanics creating wealth for a few.

Same song but a different singer.

As for community. (and I disagree with my wife over this one) The social network capabilities of the web have added to relationships and create opportunities to meet more people. Often face to face and in the real world.

If a person does not seek the outside world and physical contact, that is their fault. Let them blow up like a blimp with there pizza and beer and live their lives as a skinny little thang online.

Point 3) Where the heck is the TacomaGnome?

by NineInchNachos on 8/12/2008 @ 11:59am
Professor Fry, I object to your blimp prejudice.


by Mofo from the Hood on 8/12/2008 @ 12:05pm
Mr. Anderson, that joke went over like a lead zeppelin.

by Mofo from the Hood on 8/12/2008 @ 12:10pm
Professor Fry, as for your version of the joke, I want to inform you that you're obsolete. I can get that same joke online from University of Arizona.

by NineInchNachos on 8/12/2008 @ 12:14pm
Mofo you're too cool for school.


possibly related:
blogs.wnyc.org/radiolab/2008/08/12/the-m...

by droid116 on 8/12/2008 @ 12:16pm
A joke is never obsolete so long as there is someone to laugh at it.

Oh, and laugh local.

by Mofo from the Hood on 8/12/2008 @ 12:17pm
Tell that to Hal 9000.

by NineInchNachos on 8/12/2008 @ 12:20pm
Tell that Hal 9000 joke to Jane Austen.

by Mofo from the Hood on 8/12/2008 @ 12:26pm
Women like her don't appreciate humor.

by droid116 on 8/12/2008 @ 12:29pm
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To get to the other side HAL

"01101000 01100001 01101000 01100001 01101000 01100001 "

Well, he thought that was pretty funny.

by Mofo from the Hood on 8/12/2008 @ 12:35pm
Yeah, well with computers it's 50/50.

by deeble interactive on 8/12/2008 @ 1:11pm
I can see that on several levels this is like teaching middle school again. There is always some class clown.


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by deeble interactive on 8/12/2008 @ 1:21pm
this is serious business.

morris.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/11/phot...

by droid116 on 8/12/2008 @ 1:43pm

by Mofo from the Hood on 8/12/2008 @ 2:32pm
This group photo is a fraud. The image of a young Bill Gates in lower left corner was added to bolster the prestige of the group. This type of counterfeiting with Gates images is a well documented practice.

by droid116 on 8/12/2008 @ 4:04pm
Excellent eye my friend. I photoshoped his image on to an old album cover for my ten piece "heavy metal/folk" band from the early 70's named "Un Poderoso Viento".

by Mofo from the Hood on 8/12/2008 @ 6:37pm
Oh, that solves a mystery for me. I've often heard of Bill Gates referred to as the 11th Un Poderoso Viento.

by chrism39 on 8/12/2008 @ 8:43pm
This is the geekiest argument I have ever read on feedtacoma.

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